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Old February 23rd, 2005, 07:07 AM
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there are memory chips on bolth sides of my card, fo i have to cool bolth?

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there are memory chips on bolth sides of my card, fo i have to cool bolth?

it is preferable to cool all of the chips so that you wont have one chiop that fails because of the heat generated by overclockign all of the chips. raising the clock of the ram will overclock all the ram chips on the video card. It is possible that if you dont cool all the chips, one might be enough to cause instability and limit how far your overclock can go. however, adding ramsinks is not going to help you overclock alot, maybe 5 mhz. for me, it got me an extra 7 mhz. so it is not necessary to put ramsinks unless you absolutely want to push your card to the maximum limit it can handle.

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ramsinks really do help out ALOT with newer rams... the GDDR3 rams on all the new ATI and Nvidia cards... but anything slower than 3.2ns wont need ramsinks to get more mhz
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ok, but if im not going to cool my memory, will that fri it of just limit the oc?

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you wont fry it unless you continue overclocking it when you see artifacts or unless you voltmod. unless someone can proove me wrong, i have yet to see someone burn memory just by safely raising the speed without a voltmod.

most likely, it will just limit the oc by a few mhz, since you are using a 9200 (its not GDDR3)

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great, thanks, i oc my core to 259.50/250 stock and memory to 210/200 stock, the card run great and i gained 82 marks from stock on 3dmarks03.

gona raise it some more!

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if you want to talk about the actual mhz you overclocked to, theres a seperate thread dedicated to the topic. it can be found @ http://forums.devhardware.com/t29823/s.html
you can probably go higher with your overclock, but since no two cards are the same, dont expect to have exactly the same numbers as posted.
here is what danzo got :
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Mem: 270
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You probably wont get such a high overclock as hime since he is not using the stock heatsink/fan combo, he is using the Arctic cooler rev3 cooler. but that is just to show you how far the card can probably go if tweaked and cooled properly.

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i have seen that but my card is 128MB and his is only 64, i think he has the 9200se, also if i would make ramsinks, how to i stick them on to the memory chips?

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thermal grease with epoxy like AS2 epoxy or thermal tape will get your ramsinks PERMANENTLY attached to the ram- meaning that once its on, its on forever. me, i used arctic silver 5, wich is a thermal grease, with no epoxy since i had no intention of keeping it stuck forever, it keeps it stuck just because of suction (no air) but if you touch it, it will move and might fall off. but it does hold if its upsaide down. another way is to use thermal grease and drops of supler glue or CA (Cyano Acrylite) on the corners to get it stuck (probably forever).

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can i just use lil glue caz thurmal paste is 15$ here in canada, and i don't want to spand that much.

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you live in canada? same as me! i got arctic silver 5 at a small shop for 13.60$ taxes included. its not just for one application, you can use it for at least 10 cpus if you are carefull. And no, dont use glue as it might actually make things worse. Since glue is not a very good heat conductor, you might end up insulating your ram chips and make it hotter than without the ramsinks.

if you arent wiling to pay that much, you could always go to la centrale informatique (www.shoplci.com) to buy some of their silicon-based thermal greased, its not as good as as5 (up to 5 degrees hotter) but its better than nothing @ 4$ + tax

I got arctic silver 5 at ordicentre. their adress can be foun @ http://www.ordicentre.com/OrdicentreMainE.htm (french http://www.ordicentre.com/OrdicentreMainF.htm)

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how long does it take to see artifacts in a game, or 3dmarks03?

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usually it starts to artifact right away. if it is a heat issue, it may take a few minutes depending on how fast it warms up

but for the most part it's within a few seconds...

also to test artifacts you should be running one of the more 3d intensive games or benches... something like nature in 01 and 03 usually point out artifacts first

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Having a weak cpu will affect the performance of your card. Heat is not the only cause to having slow or choppy performance. Instead of investing in coolers and such, i would focus on getting your cpu in the 2GHZ + area. I would look into buying an AMD 2800+ or higher if you can afford it.

In other words, your driving a BMW with a Go-kart engine, you can pimp the wheels up but you still ain't going anywhere fast.


Ive bought new stuff now.. I have a p4p800-E Deluxe Motherboard, 1,5 gb ram ^^, Geforce fx 59000XT as before, and P4 3,2 ghz processor, and i also bought a Pro TC Arctic Cooling fan. But there seems to be some problems anyways. When i play games for an extended period of time the game starts lagging a lot, as in graphics lagging. What does this computer want me to do to keep it cool!?!?

The games i play are: Americas Army Online, Lineage 2, And Thief: Deadly Shadows ( a game i play when im bored of the others)

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just looking at your system specs, i doubt that it will be due to heat, and lag is usually caused by software, not hardware overheating. i would suggest you look at your hard drives and defragment them or close any programs that can cause lag while playing like norton antivirus scaning or defragmenter or programs of the like

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