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This might seem like an odd request... but is there any already available program that can render a web page on the TI-84? Also, can you send data over a usb cable in asm? I would assume so, but I've never used asm... I have this grand idea of tethering my iphone to my calculator!

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This might seem like an odd request... but is there any already available program that can render a web page on the TI-84? Also, can you send data over a usb cable in asm? I would assume so, but I've never used asm... I have this grand idea of tethering my iphone to my calculator!
There is no way of doing this. Even if you could the ti's processor (if you could call it that) couldnt even process the page correctly. Also the input of the calc isnt meant for that type of use. As a hint why not try and see if there is a ti emulator for the iphone
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There is no way of doing this. Even if you could the ti's processor (if you could call it that) couldnt even process the page correctly. Also the input of the calc isnt meant for that type of use. As a hint why not try and see if there is a ti emulator for the iphone

I don't know...
I did hear about a web browser that they were trying to make for the 83 from this website, that they say should work because they had software that would optimize the web page "better than any human could" but I can't find the page to reference it from...
Also it said 83, so I don't know if it would work for the 84...
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I'm not going to say it's not possible. If one spent enough time on it I'm sure they could get it to work.

But I think the biggest question here is why would you want to do this?

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I'm not going to say it's not possible. If one spent enough time on it I'm sure they could get it to work.

But I think the biggest question here is why would you want to do this?

I think they said "so no student goes with internet access when they need it", or something along those lines, but if you ask me that's just a load of bull
I don't think it's coming anytime soon, but I could be proven wrong.

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But... how does this thing connect to the internet?

The last thing we need is kids trying to browse the internet in class on a calculator...

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But... how does this thing connect to the internet?

The last thing we need is kids trying to browse the internet in class on a calculator...

Who knows how, or who came up with the idea to do this.
It's a terrible idea, if you ask me, because the moment a teacher (who doesn't keep up with the calculator news) says you can use your 83's, every kid would look up equations, and answers. Teachers would probably have to ban either the software or the calculator itself if it proved unable to be controlled. But until they can put a wireless internet chip into every calculator, I still think it's too far-fetched.

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Archnaid, I'm assuming someone would have to devise some sort of device that plugs into the USB "B" port on the top of the calculator to establish the connection.

As for the OP, the problem with "optimize the web page better than any human", is that the process of taking the html or whatever type of web code, and dynamically translating any wild combinations into something to fit on that screen alone would take much more processing power than the Zilog Z80 clocked at 6 MHz could handle. Couple that with the fact that the machine can't have that much memory to be used to run the app properly.

Now, lets also not forget that they'd have to write some sort of network stack for the TI operating system, along with a driver for that device. Getting the TI calc to recognize the device I imagine can't be too difficult of a feat, but getting the OS to understand the packets and whatnot, since it obviously does not have a network stack, is a whole 'nother issue. It'd be hard to port any current OSS network stack, since they're designed with processing power in mind.

I have to flag this as someone telling you quite the fib. It would be VERY interesting to see the source and how they did it, if somebody ever does pull it off.
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Archnaid, I'm assuming someone would have to devise some sort of device that plugs into the USB "B" port on the top of the calculator to establish the connection.

As for the OP, the problem with "optimize the web page better than any human", is that the process of taking the html or whatever type of web code, and dynamically translating any wild combinations into something to fit on that screen alone would take much more processing power than the Zilog Z80 clocked at 6 MHz could handle. Couple that with the fact that the machine can't have that much memory to be used to run the app properly.

Now, lets also not forget that they'd have to write some sort of network stack for the TI operating system, along with a driver for that device. Getting the TI calc to recognize the device I imagine can't be too difficult of a feat, but getting the OS to understand the packets and whatnot, since it obviously does not have a network stack, is a whole 'nother issue. It'd be hard to port any current OSS network stack, since they're designed with processing power in mind.

I have to flag this as someone telling you quite the fib. It would be VERY interesting to see the source and how they did it, if somebody ever does pull it off.

Well, I don't believe it's true either, but I was just reporting what (despite little) I remembered from seeing an article about it on this website.
I didn't hear about it from a friend, but saw the article a while back on one of the most recent articles they had up at the time.
But yeah, I would have to agree with you, it would be very interesting to see the source of this if it were real.

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