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Old March 6th, 2008, 12:14 AM
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So, my friends, if anyone has a suggestion for making the forums look more acceptable to mine eyes, please edify me!


I might sound like a broken record, but I have a suggestion:

Use Opera, then select:
View->Style->High Contrast (W/B)

I think you'll like that. If not, you can define your own style for the site...
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No sir, I don't like it.

Don't like it one bit.

If I haven't mentioned before (doubtful, that), I do not like the "color" white. Period. I am dark-adapted and white hurts my eyes.

Now, I fully understand that I have absolutely zero influence upon the people who own and operate these forums, nor do I expect them to change things just to satisfy me; but I am stating right now for the record that I will not be visiting these forums with the current color scheme very often at all.

So, my friends, if anyone has a suggestion for making the forums look more acceptable to mine eyes, please edify me!


You could try the FF web developer extension, and edit the CSS ... it will only affect the way you see it, but that's one option...
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For those who dare: old_devh.css. I've added the "!important" suffixes to explicitly override the default cascade styles.

As far as I know (link) overriding CSS2 author styles for the sake of accessibility features is acceptable and deontological. If not, please do correct me.

PS: But this certainly does not mean that I don't assume responsibility for my previously suggested idea - here.
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Another contribution to all of my Firefoxian fellow friends.

Permanent Workaround Fix

Step 1: Find your Firefox profile. Here's how to do it.

Example path: ... \Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\o6u310yb.default\chr ome

Step 2: In your "chrome" subdirectory you're going to find 2 files, one is "userChrome-example.css", and the another one is "userContent-example.css" - don't bother with these. It's just for verification.

Step 3: Download this pre-generated CSS file a la userContent-style. Keep in mind that it's not the same I've linked on the previous page (same but with very few modifications). Copy there in your "chrome" subfolder.

Step 4: Restart Firefox. The layout of DevHardware should be the traditional legacy one. The beauty of this workaround is that the changes are permanent (unless you delete or rename that "userContent.css" file we've just copied/downloaded there. And most importantly, this workaround is "site-specific" CSS overriding. It won't mess with other sites, it's explicitly limited to paths starting with www.devhardware.com. But it does not affect the main Dev Hardware site - just the forums.

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} .tcat a:hover, .tcat a:active { color: #99FF00 !important; text-decoration: underline !important; } .thead { background-color: #003366 !important; color: #ffffff !important; font: bold 11px tahoma, verdana, geneva, lucida, \'lucida grande\', arial, helvetica, sans-serif !important; } .thead a:link { color: #FFFFFF !important; } .thead a:visited { color: #FFFFFF !important; } .thead a:hover, .thead a:active { color: #FFFFFF !important; } .tfoot { background-color: #3E5C92 !important; color: #FFFFFF !important; } .tfoot a:link { color: #FFFFFF !important; } .tfoot a:visited { color: #FFFFFF !important; } .tfoot a:hover, .tfoot a:active { color: #FFFFFF !important; } .alt1, .alt1Active { background-color: #E5E5E5 !important; color: #000000 !important; } .alt2, .alt2Active { background-color: #F4F4F4 !important; color: #000000 !important; } .wysiwyg { background-color: #F5F5FF !important; color: #000000 !important; font: 10pt verdana, geneva, lucida, \'lucida grande\', arial, helvetica, sans-serif !important; 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color: #000000 !important; padding: 10px !important; border: 2px outset !important; } .panelsurround { background: #D5D8E5 url(http://images.devshed.com/fdh/gradients/gradient_panelsurround.gif) repeat-x top left !important; color: #000000 !important; } legend { color: #22229C !important; font: 11px tahoma, verdana, geneva, lucida, \'lucida grande\', arial, helvetica, sans-serif !important; } .vbmenu_control { background-color: #738FBF !important; color: #FFFFFF !important; font: bold 11px tahoma, verdana, geneva, lucida, \'lucida grande\', arial, helvetica, sans-serif !important; padding: 3px 6px 3px 6px !important; white-space: nowrap !important; } .vbmenu_control a:link { color: #FFFFFF !important; text-decoration: none !important; } .vbmenu_control a:visited { color: #FFFFFF !important; text-decoration: none !important; } .vbmenu_control a:hover, .vbmenu_control a:active { color: #FFFFFF !important; text-decoration: underline !important; } .vbmenu_popup { background-color: #FFFFFF !important; color: #000000 !important; border: 1px solid #0B198C !important; } .vbmenu_option { background-color: #BBC7CE !important; color: #000000 !important; font: 11px verdana, geneva, lucida, \'lucida grande\', arial, helvetica, sans-serif !important; white-space: nowrap !important; cursor: pointer !important; } .vbmenu_option a:link { color: #22229C !important; text-decoration: none !important; } .vbmenu_option a:visited { color: #22229C !important; text-decoration: none !important; } .vbmenu_option a:hover, .vbmenu_option a:active { color: #FFFFFF !important; text-decoration: none !important; } .vbmenu_hilite { background-color: #8A949E !important; color: #FFFFFF !important; font: 11px verdana, geneva, lucida, \'lucida grande\', arial, helvetica, sans-serif !important; white-space: nowrap !important; cursor: pointer !important; } .vbmenu_hilite a:link { color: #FFFFFF !important; text-decoration: none !important; } .vbmenu_hilite a:visited { color: #FFFFFF !important; text-decoration: none !important; } .vbmenu_hilite a:hover, .vbmenu_hilite a:active { color: #FFFFFF !important; text-decoration: none !important; } /* ***** small padding on \'thead\' elements ***** */ td.thead, div.thead { padding: 4px !important; } /* ***** basic styles for multi-page nav elements */ .pagenav a { text-decoration: none !important; } .pagenav td { padding: 2px 4px 2px 4px !important; } /* ***** define margin and font-size for elements inside panels ***** */ .fieldset { margin-bottom: 6px !important; } .fieldset, .fieldset td, .fieldset p, .fieldset li { font-size: 11px !important; } /* ***** don\'t change the following ***** */ form { display: inline !important; } label { cursor: default !important; } .normal { font-weight: normal !important; } .inlineimg { vertical-align: middle !important; } .textad, a.textad:link, a.textad:visited, a.textad:active, a.textad:hover { color: #FFFFCC !important; } A.network:link, A.network:visited, A.network:active { font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica !important; font-size: 8pt !important; 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font-size: 10px !important; font-weight: bolder !important; } .newlinks { cursor:pointer; cursor:hand !important; text-decoration: underline; color:blue !important; font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica !important; font-size: 10px !important; } .blacklinks, .blacklinks:link, .blacklinks:visited, .blacklinks:hover, .blacklinks:active { cursor:hand !important; text-decoration: underline !important; color:#000000 !important; cursor:pointer !important; cursor:hand !important; }'; newSS = document.createElement('link'); newSS.rel = 'stylesheet'; newSS.href = 'data:text/css,' + escape(styles); document.documentElement.childNodes[0].appendChild(newSS); void 0
Then whenever you "click" on that bookmarklet button, it changes your stylesheets. The drawback is that it applies only once per each site reloading.

Safari fanboys: Preferences - Advanced - Style Sheet. (Special dedication to bball.)

PS: I've actually downloaded and installed that GreaseMonkey extension. I've tried that GM_addStyle("css goes here") API function but haven't had much of luck. It works fine with few lines long cascading style layouts but in our case that doesn't apply. I'm sure you've noticed that DevH Forums cascading styles are approximatelly 400 lines long with lots of "extra" quotation marks and ( ) brackets. Therefore, it's quite a pain in the ass to "format" a GreaseMonkey specific User Script agaisnt all of the aforementioned.

Reason for that is that as you can see from its syntax, your particualr user style CSS must be placed within brackets and delimited by quotation marks. I simply don't have the time to research the way GreaseMonkey handles string operations, create and initialize N strings, then merge them together, and hope for the best that it is able to interpret the results.

Web Developer extension is also seemingly useful. It supports "user stylesheets" but with one drawback, it doesn't remember after restarting Firefox. You need to tick that box and select your style, again, again, and again. That doesn't appeal to me.

I hope you are all satisfied. Now I am already out and running... Cheers!

PS: And yes, I've installed Firefox just for you guys. And no, neither of you owe me anything and for love of God, no need to rep me.

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Another contribution to all of my Firefoxian fellow friends.

Permanent Workaround Fix

Step 1: Find your Firefox profile. Here's how to do it.

Example path: ... \Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\o6u310yb.default\chr ome

Step 2: In your "chrome" subdirectory you're going to find 2 files, one is "userChrome-example.css", and the another one is "userContent-example.css" - don't bother with these. It's just for verification.

Step 3: Download this pre-generated CSS file a la userContent-style. Keep in mind that it's not the same I've linked on the previous page (same but with very few modifications). Copy there in your "chrome" subfolder.

Step 4: Restart Firefox. The layout of DevHardware should be the traditional legacy one. The beauty of this workaround is that the changes are permanent (unless you delete or rename that "userContent.css" file we've just copied/downloaded there. And most importantly, this workaround is "site-specific" CSS overriding. It won't mess with other sites, it's explicitly limited to paths starting with www.devhardware.com. But it does not affect the main Dev Hardware site - just the forums.


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For Linux users, you may have to create the /chrome (all lowercase) folder in your user profile. Don't forget to restart Firefox.
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I lost my copy of the style and the link no longer works. Is there a way of putting this into a stylish style?

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