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October 27th, 2004, 09:32 PM

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Started? On what?

on God and religion i presume.
i'm in the same boat
The fact that "god" has been made a dictator as such, is too human for me to believe he actually exists, who cares if he's a happy dicator? it's all too 2D for me, it's all explained and laid out, it has to be bollocks, just a way for the leaders of old to control thier nations. And I'm sorry but i think catholics are money grabbing bastards, religion or no religion.
that said, i don't judge people on thier religion, it means nothing to me what people belive in.

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October 27th, 2004, 10:51 PM

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A Californian biotechnology company has started taking orders for a hypoallergenic cat for pet lovers prone to allergies. The genetically engineered feline, which is expected to be available from 2007, is the first in a planned series of lifestyle pets by a company called Allerca. Allerca president Simon Brodie says that he ultimately hopes to sell 200,000 of the cats annually at $3,500 each in the United States.

--What do you guys think?--

Personaly I dont think people should tamper with nature, because of moral issues and also, what would happen to the Vietmanesee?

I think it is stupid to genetically alter anything, it makes no sense, if you are allergic, you weren't meant to have a cat, that simple.

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October 28th, 2004, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Quantum Skyline

Started? On what?

I don't want to start ranting on religion. Although, if it comes to that, I will probably have to.

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October 28th, 2004, 09:42 AM

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I think it is stupid to genetically alter anything, it makes no sense, if you are allergic, you weren't meant to have a cat, that simple.

Roight...So, you have a problem with curing allergies (and inevitably all sicknesses), not just genetic engineering. I suppose you're opposed to allergy medicine then?

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October 28th, 2004, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by makaveli121212

Roight...So, you have a problem with curing allergies (and inevitably all sicknesses), not just genetic engineering. I suppose you're opposed to allergy medicine then?

Screwing with the cat has nothing to do with curing allergies...

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October 28th, 2004, 12:15 PM

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that is another example of duality of such things...some GM products aren't considered harmful, we use medical drugs all the time and so on....but this particular example is just pure 'market science', intended to make money no matter what, moral or principles...it has no real scientific use. i'd better support research of allergy cure than to buy GM cat, assuming a lot of these cats were brutally killed or vivisected in process. gah.

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October 28th, 2004, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Daebleak

Screwing with the cat has nothing to do with curing allergies...

He said if you're allergic to a cat then you shouldn't get a cat. So he is saying someone should not take allergy medicine to become immune to cat dander, because he or she is allergic to it. From his statement that much can be reasonably inferred. I took it to another level saying if you are allergic to flowers you should not take allergy medicine because that's the way you are. If I wanted to take even further and relate alerrgies to sickness and disease I could do that too.

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October 28th, 2004, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by makaveli121212

Roight...So, you have a problem with curing allergies (and inevitably all sicknesses), not just genetic engineering. I suppose you're opposed to allergy medicine then?

how the hell does altering feline DNA have anything to do with "curing allergies"

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October 28th, 2004, 06:10 PM

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retard, allergy medicines are fine, but altering a cat's DNA is just retarded.

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October 28th, 2004, 06:41 PM

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retard, allergy medicines are fine, but altering a cat's DNA is just retarded.

Yes retarded, that's the perfect word. If it doesn't affect you then why do you care? We alter DNA everyday, and you eat gentically engineered food everyday. Do you have a problem with that? Don't be a hypocrite.

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October 28th, 2004, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by makaveli121212

Its almost a Darwinistic approach to reasoning. I didn't get that from alex's post.

The big problem I have with genetic engineering is that it takes GENERATIONS for the effects of our changes now to the genomes of different species to take effect. Our grandchildren might not see the effects. That scares the hell out of me.

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October 28th, 2004, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Quantum Skyline

Its almost a Darwinistic approach to reasoning. I didn't get that from alex's post.
The big problem I have with genetic engineering is that it takes GENERATIONS for the effects of our changes now to the genomes of different species to take effect. Our grandchildren might not see the effects. That scares the hell out of me.

I know Alex didn't mean it to be read that way, but you have to keep things in persepective.

My problem is that we don't know the affects this can have in the long run. Well, no this specifically, but some bioengineering. Sure, in the present and near future it may seem beneficial to all, but who knows how it will change things decades down the road? We can change genes instantly, but ys to work its way throughout the entire population would take some time, but I don't think that's the idea. They don't care about changing cats, they care about making money.

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October 28th, 2004, 09:15 PM

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how the hell does altering feline DNA have anything to do with "curing allergies"

A protein the cat makes (found on dander and other places) causes allergic reactions.

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October 28th, 2004, 10:02 PM

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A protein the cat makes (found on dander and other places) causes allergic reactions.

Well, and DNA encodes RNA which encodes Protien.

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October 30th, 2004, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by makaveli121212

Sure, in the present and near future it may seem beneficial to all, but who knows how it will change things decades down the road?

We will have a major pandemic whihc will wipe out most of the things we have GE'd. Every single corn we be indentical, and when that one corn becomes susceptable to a disease, every single plant will die from it. Humans are also in store for a major pandemic. People thougth SARS was goign to be it, but that turned out to be shit. Have fun in the next 20 years.

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