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Old September 11th, 2008, 01:34 PM
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I have to disagree strong here.
ext2fs/ext3fs is around double faster than image on NTFS.
If you don't trust me just measure time needed for installation which largely depends on disk activity.


in the few cases where I have used Wubi for testing, it is a touch slower but just barely. I do agree that it is faster with it natively installed, no doubt about that, but for testing and new users, Wubi is fine for starters.
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Old September 11th, 2008, 04:40 PM
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No problem, it is usable, but I do not agree that it is marginally slower.
After all it comes to what you are using it for. If you are using disk intensive operations yoou will suffer heavily. If not, you will not see any difference.

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I just reread your post and I am not sure that we are talking about the same.
wubi is just installer.
I am talking about file image.
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Well guys just one last question and I will b good to go with setting up Ubuntu, and that is how much space do you guys recommend for Ubuntu? I heard 20gb is good but I would rather have people with Ubuntu or linux on there system to tell me approximitly.

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I gave myself 20gigs and it's plenty. You'll find things to be much more optimized and efficient in linux than windows.
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It depends on how much do you need and what will you install. If you installing Debian and want to install all software from 3 DVDs than you will need 15-20 GB. Ubuntu will be more than happy with few GBs.
Technicaly, you can install linux on few megabytes.

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Actualy it is not the same thing with different desktop look. Ubuntu use GNOME and Kubuntu use KDE which are very different things.
While I use Ubuntu and not Kubuntu, I hear that there are other differences as well. Some claim that synaptic is not installed by default and other stuff. Not major, and you can always install what you want. But they are different

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If I am not wrong (and I am not wrong ) than Synaptyc is using GNOME, and you need GNOME for it to work. I am not sure if kubuntu have GNOME included.
Anyway, you can install packages that are missing in each distribution but sometimes it can take big downloads. That is the main reason why I prefer Debian when it comes to (well) Debian based distributions. Debian comes with 3 DVDs and there are not much software I need to download.

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Well guys I greatly appreciate all the help , but if you want to continue the post and discuss linux distros, I don't know of any other linux distro then Ubuntu, so I am claiming it the best as of now. also would Wubi work for installing Ubuntu? I have a live CD on my desktop and I have XP.

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have you thought about installing vmware server and testing out ubuntu before you tackle the real installation process? vmware server is a free download.
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GNOME for it to work. I am not sure if kubuntu have GNOME included.

Kubuntu is KDE. No Gnome by default.

Someday when I'm old and wise, I'll understand the difference between Gnome and KDE and why it causes such hostile responses between folks who believe in Gnome and those of the KDE religion. I sure don't know the differences, and don't care.

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I know that kubuntu have KDE by default. But for GNOME programs to run you must have GNOME installed, you don't need to use GNOME desktop but you have to have installed it. This what I am not sure. What I know is that Ubuntu doesn't have KDE and Qt at all on it's CD.

As for difference between GNOME and Qt, apart from technical things (for example, Qt uses SIGNAL-SLOT approach and that might cause all sorts of problems with kernel signals) difference is that Qt is not under GNU licence.
Basicaly, if you want to make program comercial software with Qt you must pay licence, you can use it for free for making free programs.

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