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Old March 16th, 2005, 06:48 AM
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pretty much laid to rest, then

Twas the latter, yes.

Thanks for the reply. Oh well, a guy can dream...





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Are you asking if any other software vendors offer slipstream capabilities or are you asking if an application exists that would let you slipstream any random piece of software?

I think you are asking the latter. If that is the case, then, no there is no software to do that that I am aware of because it would be stricly incident dependant based on what the patch does.

Most upgrades simply unpack themselves and perform a basic file replacement. This can be done manually before burning an installation folder or CAB to a CD. However, if it is a single file installer this would require some degree of decompilation.

Now if the patch or upgrade consists of registry changes, changes to a configuration file, registering/unregistering dll components, and the like -- well, you can see how this becomes a little more difficult.

Basically, if you know what the patch does you can replace necessary file and create a batch script or AutoIt script to make all other necessary changes. But you need to have exact details of what changes are made by the patch or upgrade. That's why no programs exist for this. That's why I say this feature has to be developed into the patch or upgrade setup.

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Old May 15th, 2005, 02:13 PM
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Updated the original text with all hotfixes I have now, threw in the contents of teh associated batch file.

Working on that answer file/unattended... wasn't happy with the way everything would be installed to the system drive... I don't like to have anything besides Windows on that drive/in that directory, but I found something that MSFN doesn't appear to mention in their unattended dialog-- you can redirect install files to a different drive/folder by creating a folder under $OEM$ with the drive letter as such: $OEM$/D

Anything under that folder will be installed to the D:\ drive.
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Old May 19th, 2005, 12:53 AM
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Thanks Nilpo, that's where I started from when I decided to slipstream... great resource, there.


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No, really, that's where I started from

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Old May 29th, 2005, 10:35 PM
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Just curious - When you Slipstream all of the "Hotfixes", do they still show up as individual entries in the "Add/Remove" Programs, or are they now just an integral part of the OS? I did the SP2 slipstream a while back, but I have not done any hotfix slipstreams yet (one of my XP Installs is not online, so I don't install the Hotfixes/Security Updates for this particular install).

AND - Does Flexbeta Slipstreamer XP work for the Hotfixes, or just for SP2?

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Old May 30th, 2005, 12:07 PM
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Just curious - When you Slipstream all of the "Hotfixes", do they still show up as individual entries in the "Add/Remove" Programs, or are they now just an integral part of the OS? I did the SP2 slipstream a while back, but I have not done any hotfix slipstreams yet (one of my XP Installs is not online, so I don't install the Hotfixes/Security Updates for this particular install).

AND - Does Flexbeta Slipstreamer XP work for the Hotfixes, or just for SP2?

Thanks


That's a good question, Randy. At this moment I don't know... when I get home I'll fire up the slipstreamed machine and take a look.

I am not familiar with Flexbeta, so I can't answer you on that one.

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Old May 30th, 2005, 04:33 PM
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Dngrsone, check this link:
http://flexbeta.net/slipstreamerxp/

It seems pretty cool, but I have not used this yet. It looks like an actual MS OS installer type configuration.

Anyway, let us know about the Hotfixes. I just hate seeing 10 or more entries in the Program List just for Hotfixes (I'm not sure if this is really affecting performance or not, but I would think having this integtrated into the OS would be wise...).

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Thanks, Randy. It looks like this utility just slipstreams Service Packs, not the subsequent hotfixes.

I'd have an answer for you already on those entries, but no sooner did I get than I got called back to work

Won't get back home until midnight or later.

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I'm all ears! Let us know at your convenience. PS - Do you think having the Hotfixes installed as seperate "programs" could negatively affect the OS's performance (versus integrating the Hotfixes into the OS itself)? Just curious if this has any relevance to system stability or avalible resources/memory allocation...

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I don't think so... I do it mostly to avoid spending ten hours online trying to download all the stoopid hotfixes with Autoupdate... cheapskate dial-up kinda guy, you know.

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Rodger that. Thanks for the reply

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Randy, it looks like it creates one folder holding all the hotfixes and that's it, which is far better than the mess we get through regular updates.

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