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so what is CCIE?
and whats a good feild to go to?
ive been thinking about a change.. i got 10 weeks before i should have a decision.. im takng eng, and math right now to get it over with...i dont know if im smart enough for programming... what is your guys' favorites?

CCIE is Cisco Certified Internetworking Expert.  First, you get your CCNA or CCDA cert (1 test).  CCNA is CC Networking Associate, CCDA is CC Design Associate.  You can use a router sim for this one.  The only thing you need physical equipment for on this is to do a password recovery  Then you move up to CCNP (Networking Professional) or CCDP (Design Professional).  This step is pretty arduous.  It consists of 4 exams on which you must score pretty high to pass and covers about 5-6 books worth of material.  For this, you also MUST have the physical hardware at your disposal.  They sell "kits" for this on ebay.  Finally, you can opt for the big one.  The CCIE.  The test consists of 2 parts.  Written and practical.  The written exam is something like 4 hours in length.  IF you pass the written, you are QUALIFIED to take the practical.  The written test has a 20% first time pass rate, so be prepared to take it at least twice.  To take the practical, you go to a Cisco facility.  On day 1 they take you into a room full of equipment sitting around and give you a diagram and say build it.  You have 8 hours.  When you are finished, you go home and rest.  While you are resting, Cisco's boys are focking up your hard work.  You come in the next day and they take you to the room and hand you a sheet of paper that, basically, says "Fix It".  You have a time limit to do this.  If you pass all sections, you can claim the title of CCIE.  At this point, you are a network god.  After that, there are some specialty areas you can go into.  You can also specialize at the CCNA/CCDA level as well.

damn thats alot... did you have to do all that?  if so how long did it take you in college for all that total?   i think im stupid... but i cant think that way... was it hard for you?

Right now, I'm a CCNP candidate.  I have one more exam.  It's a long road.  Beware of the "nothing to CCIE" camps out there.  They promise what they cannot deliver.  2-3 weeks is not nearly long enough to get there.  My advice is to start out w/ A+, Net+ and then go on to the CCNA.  There is enough information to know for the CCNA to keep you busy for a good 4 months.  Since the other certs build on this one, you need to know it as well has you speak your native language.  Granted, there are programs out there that will subnet for you, but you really need to know how to do it well.  I can subnet most IPs in my head.  Also, know your protocols inside and out.  Don't ignore the Juniper hardware.  Get at least a basic knowledge of Juniper's IOS.

Anyone who gets CCIE has earned it, as there is no cheating or faking it, certainly a boot camp will not even get you close, you either know it (after years of use) or you don't. I don't think there is a harder exam in the Networking field.

i have no clue what you talking about... but i really wanna learn and im already in school now for it.. but you guys are starting to scare me with all this "hard" talk :cold::cold::cold:

Yeah, hard work sucks.  I already gave up on getting my MCSE certification.  much too much of that "work" stuff.:blueyes:

finally hre you posted something that was useful

goodjob...

MCSE is a tough track.  It may even be tougher than the CCNP.  The thing that makes the MCSE tough is the dry material from MS.  I was 2 tests into the NT MCSE track when they switched gears on me.  

With MS, start out w/ just the MCP.  That's the desktop OS and the server OS.  Then go from there.  There is some much MS stuff out there, it's really difficult to choose.  You can do the MS Office certs, Exchange certs, security, MCSE, MC Network Admin, etc.  The list goes on.  The A+ should get you a good head start on the MS exams.  Just be sure to know your stuff.  Start at the beginning w/ A+ and go from there.  It's the basic of the basic.  

you are the biggest fucking hypocrit i have ever come across....why do you leave here and go back to your pokemon forums you dirty cock sucker

are you calling me the dirty cocksucker, or joe?  cuz I do't think you watn to be calling me a dirty cocksucker.

i just signed up for the MSCE and the A+...i start in Jan. wish me luck...:smilewinkgrin:

He was calling joe on.I think, however HRE its no secrect that you love the man meat aswell:thefinger_red:

Heck, I bet every one of us could pass the A+ tests without studying, but that MCSE shit sucks arse.  

well since i quoted the jogee or whatever the fags name was.....i was talking to him