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Old June 15th, 2004, 05:51 PM
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Lightbulb Sonata Audio Connections

Here is my diagram of the connections necessary to hook the Audigy 2 ZS to the Sonata case.

The 1 in the picture is the location of pin 1. The one above it is 2, etc.

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hey, Ive emailed creative support alot of times but to no avail, so I might ask you guys if you know how to apply all of this knowledge to a Centurion case?
I have the following connectors which I want to connect to it:
· L_OUT
· R_OUT
· GROUND
· MIC_IN
· MIC_PWL

If anyone can help, thatd be great, because creative labs technical support really isnt. :P Seriously, theure like hitting our head against a brick wall .

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Old June 16th, 2004, 05:13 PM
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Thanks twisted steel. Could you explain what the other speaker pins do? I only care about getting my headset to work through the front audio panels.

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Thanks twisted steel. Could you explain what the other speaker pins do? I only care about getting my headset to work through the front audio panels.

The other two speaker pins, RET-R and RET-L are for motherboards that support rear speaker input, according to the Sonata manual. These are not needed for your headphones to work with the case and the soundcard. All you need to hook up are the FPOUT-L, FPOUT-R, and AUD_GND to the card for it to work, and just tuck the others out of the way.

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what about me?
the case is a Coolermaster Centurion CAC-T01-EK ATX Midi Tower case.
Pic of it can be found here: http://www.pluscorp.biz/Website/Displays/8cbeaa866aa03464d9e9cc76aa3fcbd5.jpg

Dont worry, it works :P

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The other two speaker pins, RET-R and RET-L are for motherboards that support rear speaker input, according to the Sonata manual. These are not needed for your headphones to work with the case and the soundcard. All you need to hook up are the FPOUT-L, FPOUT-R, and AUD_GND to the card for it to work, and just tuck the others out of the way. \"\"

Thanks again! I'll give it a try later tonight or tomorrow.

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what about me?
the case is a Coolermaster Centurion CAC-T01-EK ATX Midi Tower case.
Pic of it can be found here: http://www.pluscorp.biz/Website/Dis...c76aa3fcbd5.jpg

Dont worry, it works :P
Did you get the PM I sent you? I put some instructions in there

-- EDIT --
Here are the instructions that I sent to da_rock79 for anyone else that may have this case. I'm going on a hunch, since I don't own it, but here they are:

First off, you may need to switch L_OUT and R_OUT with each other if the sound comes out on the wrong side of the headphones, as I'm not sure if my case labelled them incorrectly or not.
Put L_OUT in pin 4 (FPOUT_L in my Sonata diagram).
Put R_OUT in pin 2 (FPOUT_R in my Sonata diagram).
Put GROUND in pin 1 (AUD_GND in my Sonata diagram).
I'm not sure for the microphones, but I think this might be correct.
Put MIC_PWL in pin 8 (MIC in my diagram). Assuming the previous is correct, put MIC_IN in pin 6 (my MIC_BIAS).

Last edited by twisted_steel : June 26th, 2004 at 11:24 AM. Reason: Added the instructions

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is it possible to do this on an audigy 2 non zs? Cuz I know what all the pins on the card does except for the AD_EXT ones, and none of the pins I know of will work for this purpose.

edit: nm i found the layout for the AD_EXT http://www.bih.net.ba/~info.com/ad_ext.jpg

seems like they're all digital inputs and outputs, i guess it's not worth the trouble to build a converter.

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1 - Analog Ground
2 - Analog Headphone Out Left
3 - Audio Backpanel Mute -- short to ground to mute the backpanel (when headphones are plugged in)
4 - Analog Headphone Out Right
5 - same as #3
6 - Mic input from front panel
7 - key pin (shouldn't be there)
8 - VREF out -- voltage reference for Mic
9 - MIC IN MUTE -- ground when mic isn't plugged in, +12VDC when mic is plugged in
10 - Audio cable detect -- will be ground when headphones are plugged in (not normally used)

=================

These are for the set of pins in the upper left of the card (in the white area - see http://www.ixbt.com/multimedia/crea.../audigy2-zs.jpg).

This is all the information I have:

URL

Could anyone give my some guidance on which of these connectors goes where? I can guess a couple, but some of the more obscure ones I can't match.

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First of all it would have been convenient to physically know where pin 1 was located in the white area. If you are looking at the picture in the link above pin 1 is to the right hand side of the white area (toward the SB logo).

I have the same type of connectors for my case. As far as I can tell the microphone needs 5v to work properly that would place it on pin 8 - Vref and the mic data should go to pin 6.

This is what I have:

Grd - Pin1
Ear L - Pin2
Ear L - Should this be on pin3
Ear R - Pin4
Ear R - Should this be on pin5
Mic In - Pin6
Mic VCC - Pin8


Here is where my questions begin. My headphones work perfectly but my microphone does not work. I have measured the voltage coming out of pin 8 and I only get 2.48v instead of the 5v required to power a mic. Also when I measure the voltage from the mic in on the rear panel (ring on the plug) I get a solid 1.88v. When I measure pin 6 in the white area I get 2v initially then it losses voltage down to zero. Is anyone else haveing these issues? Is this normal? Is my card defective? If anyone can help me I would greatly appreciate it.

Also could someone tell me how you are using the white connectors. I have some old cables that have the SB connectors on them, but how do I get from my large female plugs over to these small female plugs?

Thanks

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Also could someone tell me how you are using the white connectors. I have some old cables that have the SB connectors on them, but how do I get from my large female plugs over to these small female plugs?

Thanks
I am also interested to know how these cables are hooked up. There is a post earlier in this thread that talks about connecting an analog CD audio cable, but when I tried doing this I found that it was too large to fit.

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Getting the plugs to stay:
I found the best way to do this is to go and purchase one of the old, white "sbpro" audio connecters. This used to be the connector from cd-rom to sound blaster. They're white and more square than the current audio connectors. More importantly though, they fit the white analog connector on the audigy 2 PERFECTLY.

When i intially tried to use the normal jumper connectors from the case the sound was always iffy, but now the sound comes loud and clear and sounds great. Hopefully that will help you guys out.

I've read somewhere else that the true connector that fits into the audigy2zs is actually an OEM Dell part. So if you have connections there maybe someone could solve this problem once and for all.

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Believe it or not, you actually can do this . It took a little while to find the right person to talk to, but here they are:

=================

1 - Analog Ground
2 - Analog Headphone Out Left
3 - Audio Backpanel Mute -- short to ground to mute the backpanel (when headphones are plugged in)
4 - Analog Headphone Out Right
5 - same as #3
6 - Mic input from front panel
7 - key pin (shouldn't be there)
8 - VREF out -- voltage reference for Mic
9 - MIC IN MUTE -- ground when mic isn't plugged in, +12VDC when mic is plugged in
10 - Audio cable detect -- will be ground when headphones are plugged in (not normally used)

=================

These are for the set of pins in the upper left of the card (in the white area - see http://www.computers4sure.com/comassets/productlarge/CNET/I196555.jpg).

-- EDIT --
Ghostrider reminded me that I forgot to say which is pin 1. It's the one on the far right, next to the SoundBlaster logo.
-- END EDIT --

I don't remember if I had to switch the left and right output connectors to the front of my Antec Sonata case, so if it doesn't work one way, try the other. The only real problem I've had is I have to jiggle them around a bit to get them in the right position initially. I have yet to figure out a way to get the connectors to fit in tightly - right now I have the tops held together by a rubber band to try to stabilize them. If you have any questions or want me to take a picture to show you what I mean, let me know.

For those of you with a new IFPA connect (a 5x2 connector) here is the pin-outs: http://www.frontx.com/cpx110.html .
For those having trouble finding old SB CD-ROM connectors that site sells 5x1 and 8x1 header connectors which should work (I think). The 8x1 should be perfect as you probably won't be using the two end pins.

With that said, I'd like to get the auto-sense of the head-phones working. What would it take to ground pins 3 and/or 5 automatically when I plug in head-phones? Can I simply plug in the audio input leads from my connector? My guess is no. Would I fry something doing that? If that wouldn't work what would it take to get that working (in terms an idiot could understand)?

Thanks.

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I have tried several iterations of wiring the 10 pin connector to no avail. Supposedly pin 10 goes to ground when the headphones are plugged in, but taht is bogus. I wired pin 10 to the backpanel mute pins and it didn't do anything. Perhaps this needs to be enabled somewhere in the driver or bios?

Only way i can think of to get it to work is to have a circuit to ground physically completed when you plug in the headphones and that would require modification of the headphone jack? I too would love to get tihs feature to work.

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With that said, I'd like to get the auto-sense of the head-phones working. What would it take to ground pins 3 and/or 5 automatically when I plug in head-phones? Can I simply plug in the audio input leads from my connector? My guess is no. Would I fry something doing that? If that wouldn't work what would it take to get that working (in terms an idiot could understand)?

Thanks.

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once more for the technically challenged please

hello every1

i was really happy to find steel's post unfortunately i am not quite sure about
the pins to use.

i hv attached a bigger pic of the board
and would really appreciate if you could
ms-paint-point-out the pins.

thanks a lot

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SRY 4 THE DOUBLE POST -
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hello every1

i was really happy to find steel's post unfortunately
i am not quite sure about the pins to use.

i hv attached a bigger pic of the board
and would really appreciate if you could
ms-paint-point-out the pins.

thanks a lot

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