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is it me or do the majority of stickies outlast their true usefulness? alot changes in last eight months and its not so much of a question these days, 2gbs is pretty much the standard...

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standard? i hope youre joking, there are still tons of peopel out there with less than 1 gb, some people with 1gb, and i have yet to see 2gb as a standard....

of course, with this i am talking about average joe. for average joe, the standard is still 512mb, for gamers, its 1 gb and right now, for people with loads of cash, maybe its going towards 2 gb, but IMO the transfer has just barely started.
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Rather call it 'gaming standard'....

I would say almost all gamers who are building new rigs..plan on at least 2 gb. Those who have their rigs for a year or so, they are planning an upgrade.

Dragon, Oblivion and GRAW do take up a lot of memory. Chcek out Mages' Ghost Recon thread..the demo takes up over 900mb of RAM already. The new gaming standard IS 2gb..and I saw it coming wayyyy back.
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^^ lol, i'm buying myself a set of them also! cost about the same as most 1gb kits of decent branded ram and they supposedly clock to 270mhz 1:1 on average , so i dont know why dragon thinks you have to have 'loads of cash' to have 2gb.
Thanks to tejas for clarifying my statement and aptly stating the memory requirements of new release games... I'm a gamer and assume most people in this forum that would be reading these stickies would be too.
Hence my first statement about the usefulness of stickies at times. When this was first posted eight months ago, moving to 2gb was expensive and a big deal that didnt necessarily have any huge benifits vs cost. Now its does!

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when I upgrade my system from my Sandy to whatever's next, I'll definitely look into getting more then a gig. but for now, unless I wanna play doom 4 squared at 2000-times-something resolution, I'm happy with my AGP card and 1 GB of RAM
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hmmm, interesting that the two games i havent looked at use that much ram.

and what about batlefield 2? does that really require over 1 gb of ram?

im more anticipating 2gb as a requirement for CRYSIS when it comes out. and given we can have a possibility of 1gb dedicated video ram, 4 gb is kinda scary... i wonder what those quad sli's are, are they 4x 256 or 4x 512, i doubt its the latter, but it would be pretty freaky to fathom, 2gb of video ram....
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I'm tired of hearing people argue about games needing more than one gig of memory and having to reply that they don't and you won't notice the difference. I recently decided to run some tests and see if what I was saying is true. Here is what I did and what I got:

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I ran two games for my little test: Battlefield 2, a game which is often said to take 2 gigabytes of memory and UT2K4, my favorite game, generally acknowledged to run fine on one gig of memory. I started up the system and then opened up BF2 and loaded the last map, whatever it's called, can't remember. The I noted the result and then did the same for UT2K4 on AS - Mother Ship. I played both games a little to see if there was any stuttering. Finally, rebooting was in order and so I did. Took out a gig and ran the same tests. Pretty self-explanatory.

Here are the specs of the system I used for testing:

MSI K8N NeoII Platinum
AMD Athlon64 3200+ Winchester core
Built by ATi Radeon 9800pro
2X Maxtor 160gig HDDs, RAID-0
Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 2ZS
1 gigabyte/2 gigabytes of system memory, PC3200

Nothing was overclocked for these tests.

Results:


2GB System Memory:

BF2
Map loading time: 48.19S +/- 1s
No stuttering

UT2K4
Map loading time: 26.82.82s +/- 1s
No stuttering

1GB system Memory:


BF2
Map loading time: 55.41s +/- 1s
No stuttering

UT2K4
Map loading time: 31.35s +/- 1s
No stuttering

1GB system Memory, less processes:


BF2
Map loading time: 49.64s +/- 1s
No stuttering

UT2K4
Map loading time: 29.31s +/- 1s
No stuttering



Conclusion:

Well, I was right and wrong at the same time. I didn't really feel a noticeable difference, even though there was in fact one while loading the maps, up to over 7 second difference in fact. UT2004 was impacted, which surprised me. I would never have thought that a game which seemed to use less than a gig was actually affected when memory was added. Now, while doubling up on memory does produce results, you have to realize that it will hurt your overclockability as well. Also note that there was no stuttering in-game in any case and that closing memory-hogging applications like FAH made a fair difference when running a gig, almost bringing you up to par with double the memory.

If you don't mind paying two times as much on system memory for that 7 second increase when running memory hogging processes and losing overclockability then go for it. Otherwise I would suggest sticking with a gigabyte for now.



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Just a quick note - The setups and research illustrated here were done in an attempt to keep total RAM usage under 1GB while gaming with BF2. With the newer generation cards like the 7800GT / 7900GT / 7800GTX / 7900GTX and the X1800XT / X1900XT, additional visual enhancements along with the extra graphics processing power that is available make it very hard to keep total RAM usage under 1GB. Therefore my recommendation for anybody using the newer generation (7800 / 7900GT/X or X1800XT / X1900XT / any Crossfire combination or SLI combination faster than 2 6600GTs) would be to definately go with 2GB for this game. This is considering you game at 1280x960 / 1280x1024 or higher. One could probably keep total RAM usage under 1GB if you game at 1024x768, but I doubt anybody with the higher end cards would run at that resolution.


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yep hard drives mostly affects loading times, ive had a huge bump between some old 5400rpm maxtor drive and a 7200rpm 16mb cache maxtor drive, loadings are so much faster in bf2 ,more than 2times i could say.

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yep hard drives mostly affects loading times, ive had a huge bump between some old 5400rpm maxtor drive and a 7200rpm 16mb cache maxtor drive, loadings are so much faster in bf2 ,more than 2times i could say.

i would prolly do some benchmarks, check the fps increase in games and encoding and stufff...


now go from that to raid-0 thats what i did. man! what a difference! and now imn planing to jump from raid-0 on single IDE channel to dual channel hard drives, one sata and one IDE. *droool* thats another 40 mb/s sequential read speed on an already great 92 mb/s sequential

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