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Old July 18th, 2007, 04:13 AM
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It will all ended like LS-120 ands similar.
something else will win. 50 or so GB is not enough, if you compare it to DVD it is only 10 times more (5 for dual layer DVD) and that is not enough. Winner will be someone with 500 GB or bigger media.
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It will all ended like LS-120 ands similar.
something else will win. 50 or so GB is not enough, if you compare it to DVD it is only 10 times more (5 for dual layer DVD) and that is not enough. Winner will be someone with 500 GB or bigger media.


its 8 gig for dual layer and 4.7 for single
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Old July 18th, 2007, 11:05 AM
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It will all ended like LS-120 ands similar.
something else will win. 50 or so GB is not enough, if you compare it to DVD it is only 10 times more (5 for dual layer DVD) and that is not enough. Winner will be someone with 500 GB or bigger media.


Something like that Hollographic Disc Technology.
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Old July 18th, 2007, 11:20 AM
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Yeah winner for a time like 3 years...i think..after that comes the 1 TB disk , at least
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Personal guess, blu-ray will win. Why? Because it's big battleground market is the US, and invariably in the US (whether right or wrong) people think that more expensive means better. So rich early adopters will go blu-ray, then the price will drop down and more people will buy it.

Everything new is expensive at first, remember DVD burners?

More expensive alone will not make the difference. Remember VHS and Betamax. Betamax at one time owned the market. When VHS came out people stuck with Betamax because it was considered the superior technology. VHS eventually won out because of low cost clones and longer record times. It is true that blue-ray has longer record times but if someone starts producing hd dvd playerers for less that $100 while blue-ray is much more expensive then hd dvd could really take off.
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More expensive alone will not make the difference. Remember VHS and Betamax. Betamax at one time owned the market. When VHS came out people stuck with Betamax because it was considered the superior technology. VHS eventually won out because of low cost clones and longer record times. It is true that blue-ray has longer record times but if someone starts producing hd dvd playerers for less that $100 while blue-ray is much more expensive then hd dvd could really take off.


Studio support is a lot different this time around. Blu-ray Disc association has FAR more support from tech companies, and movie studios than Betamax had back in it's day. JVC was able to make the price difference considerable between VHS and Betamax, where HD-DVD is not that much cheaper, if at all. And, add to the fact that Blu-ray has things making it worth the extra cost. Blu-ray diodes are also dropping considerably in price.

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You also have to remember the difference in market. The Winning format will take the PC industry, quite possibly the Audio industry (where the Blu-ray audio disc spec is also winning, by FAR), and the movie industry. The rumors of Wal-mart low cost HD-DVD players was deemed false, as was pr0n studios supporting HD-DVD exclusively. (Who buys pr0n on disc anyway?)

This is all to say IF one format wins or not. These could be the segway formats into higher capacity, and these will be here just to fill the desires of temporary storage woes, and Hi-Def Video addicts (we've been due for an overhaul past DVD's 480p). (Blu-ray is fantastic in 1080p).

And about Europe... Those numbers don't include Playstation 3 sales, only standalone players (no PC drives either, where Blu-ray is winning BIG, despite Microsoft).. True, a lot of PS3 owners won't use the movies, but a lot of them will, as a product of the PS3, but many bought it simply for that use, or got it because it was Blu-ray primarily, and for a few extra bucks, it was a game system with media capabilities. Many also bought the PS3 because for a while, it was the cheapest Blu-ray player on the market. I believe if you count in the number of people who considered Blu-ray "important" or "primary" in their purchase of the PS3, or who use it as a BD player, I guarantee the Europe numbers would be in Blu-ray's favor. Just look at MOVIE SALES. Also, for those talking about google seach differences, realize DVD causes false positives about HDTV and standard DVD, and Blu-ray is often searched for under incorrect terms.

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Well as far as the recent rumors of sub-$100 HD players, then I think the battle would be a tough win for blu-ray...
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Well as far as the recent rumors of sub-$100 HD players, then I think the battle would be a tough win for blu-ray...

That's only for people attending the Hi-def conference. They get a low end Toshiba HD-DVD player for $99. Meanwhile, they're paying $500+ to get in. Besides, the device is only worth $299, and with no titles on HD-DVD, it's not worth it, and will likely not sell.

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A little price cutdown newer hurts i think.

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NEW YORK (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp. (MSFT.O: Quote, Profile, Research) said on Thursday it would lower the price of the high-definition DVD player accessory for its Xbox 360 game console in the United States to $179 from $199, and add five free movies to anyone who buys the machine in August or September.


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