Page 2 - IPOD's

maybe you should back up your claims about iTunes being spy-ware. iTunes is 100% spyware free and why would it have spyware? it comes from a company who makes the safest common OS(that doesn't inclued all you linux junkies out there). Also .mp3 can be just as good as .acc but it will be much bigger, .aac is CD quality audio without the giant size. I would love to see .aac go to DVD-Audio quality with the same size but DVD-quality is very rare and very big hense why it needs a DVD.


So lets talk about your Rio Karma shall we?
. It doesn't have the mass popularity the iPod has
. I personally know people that have had a Karma and it stopped working and the couldn't get a replacement so they went with an iPod
. 20Gb Karma equals 10,000 .WMA at 64Kbps, 15Gb iPod equals 3,700 songs(type not specified)
. Karma battery life=15 hours iPod battery life 8+hours
. Same weight
. The Karma is shorter, wider, and fatter then the iPod
. Both have 160 x 128 px screens however the Karma has 16 shades of Gray and the ipod only shows 3 however setting the contrast allows for thousands of shades



Well it looks like the Karma has the iPod beat, also its the same price as the iPod 15Gb
Some nice things about the iPod family is that iPods can go up to 40Gb or down to 4Gb with the iPod Mini, and again its mass popularity. I know that in my school if you had an iPod people thought it was cool but if you had some other .mp3 player people wondered why you didn't just go with an iPod. I know first hand how the looks of the horribly priced iPod Mini get attention, if only I ordered a color like pink...


you may ask why i went with the 15Gb iPod and not the 20Gb? well if you do your a moron, there is no 20Gb iPod, only 4,10(not any more)15,30,40Gb Gen3's, no one cared abot Gen2, and the 5Gb gen1.

there IS a 20 gig IPOD, i have one.

Yeah there was a 20 gig iPod for about 9 months, then they replaced it, with 15 gig.

maybe you should do some research before posting.
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APP...1.3.1.0.0.0.1.0

Yeah I have a 20gb iPod....it is soooooo good.

I heard they break pretty easily though so I look after my baby....

It's a shame that I have 27.6 Gb worth of music...I can't even fit all of it on my iPod....!

i got 2GB in mine. how many songs and hours is 27.6 GB?

It's quite a bit...and it pretty much gets updated like every day nearly. The way I am going I will end up with like a 200gb collection in 10 years time......errrrrr lol

wow thats alot of music, i didn't even know there was that many songs ever written

(yes that was sarcastic)

LoL, I have music from all over the world. It's a good thing that I like all kinds of music, because one second my PC is playing ATB - 9pm Till I Come (Techno/Dance) and then the next it's Disney - Lion Sleeps Tonight....lol

So because every else has bought it, it must be the best

I could name just as many bad stories about the iPod, especially the Minis.

20GB is 20GB. They both hold the same amount of songs, but iPod doesn't support OGG or FLAC.

If you get 8 hours out of an iPod I'd be impressed.

The Karma's display is definately better.


I think everyone else has already pointed out who the moron is.

BTW I own both the Karma and iPod G3 20GB. The sound quality is definately better with the Karma, has better controls, and comes with Sennheiser headphones.

well I noticed one thing, the reason the Karma can hold so many songs is the quality is only 64Kbps when the songs on an iPod(the ones apple sells through iTunes and the majority of .mp3 files) are at 128Kbps with the exeption of spoken words like an audio book which is at only 32Kbps