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Old March 9th, 2005, 06:52 PM
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It doesn't have to be painted, its going to be covered. I'm gonna build the wooden chest, foam the inside, set the panels, and line with neoprene. You won't even see the metal.

As far as copper it concerned, I don't know where to find it. But it will be alot more expensive.

P.S. I know how to braze copper, and steel, and really anything. (I work for Carrier here in Charlotte; I braze every day). But we're talking thin gauge steel that wasn't meant for brazing. Didn't even think of soldering though.
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Sorry it was just an idea thought it would be cheaper.

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Sorry it was just an idea thought it would be cheaper.


Well I'm pretty sure copper sheets are much more expensive. I still have to find some though I guess to see. Brazing copper is like riding a bike

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You know come to think of it copper prices have always been higher than steel. So yes, not a viable alternative. But dear old dad suggested something else. Plastic. Craft stores carry plastic that I can just glue together then seal with silicone. Never thought of that, plus it'll serve as a better insulator for sound.

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Is it just me or are the Xtreme Systems Forums people conceited know-it-alls?

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I had a look over there but couldn't see where you had posted. Differant user name? Linky I was about to recoment plasic, didn't think about the sound insulation though...

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Plastic will insulate for sound alot more effectively than metal. My father told me that, and then it occurred to me that he was very right hehe.

As for the extreme bit.. its not that important. Its just that daily theres someone there to "Correct" me. Usually its because I figured I could omit some of the gory details because I figured they already know, only to have them figure I don't know and get all professor on me.

Anyways, I thought of another idea last night when I was going over the charging problem. I'm going to install a relief valve. I'll have to hook it up to an auxilliary vacummed cylinder. That way if it ever exceeds design pressure (more than the system can handle) it'll discharge in order to prevent damage.

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Alright, got some time off. Tonight I'm going to re-measure my space in my room. I got some wood to use downstairs. I'll first go to Home Depot of course to pick up some biscuits to join the boards together. (Got a joiner of course). Sparing no expense here.

Of course I could use plywood just as well. Its gotta be one or the other though, becase the seat will not fit up right after a few years if I don't. This is gonna be fun ^_^

Personally I can't wait to get the whole kitten caboodle finished and running. Even if I dont have my comp ready, it'll be nice to test it.

I've gotta test the capacity anyways before I even install it. And I gotta find out how to control condensation. Insulation works, but I need some vapochill like heating elements.

Does anyone know where to look for that?

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Why would you need a heating element for? the whole point of what youre doing is to get the cpu as cold as possible right?....... for condensation, use alot of dielectric grease and you should be fine.......

if it help, this was how I insulated mine.....



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The heating element provides moisture control. Its used with a vapochill unit, and you don't see people complaining. I can't just spread dielectric grease all over the place, that's just too dang messy. It has its use, but I'm not planning on goin overboard with it :

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You have to consider that youre not going to get the same temp as a vaporchill..... For me yes, a heating element will prevent unnecceary moisture and you dont have to use as much dielectric grease but since you have to use the grease anyways whats another 3"x4" area........ for the amount of work you have to put in to make a heating element, i would just spread some grease behind the mobo and be over with it....... well thats me cos Im lazy.....

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Hey those pictures weren't there before.

Anyways, I figured sub-zero was cold enough, but *shrugs*. It really doesn't matter yet anyways, Im not at that phase yet.

They use systems like these to pump glycol under a skating rink to freeze the water to ice. They run pretty darn cold.

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What about epoxying the mobo that way even if there is condensation it can't cause a short.

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I don't want to ruin it. Generally, when I'm done with a system, I'll sell the parts that I'm upgrading. That would not fair well. At least dielectric grease can be cleaned.

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Well, I was working until I couldn't find the saw guide. My father put it somewhere and he doesn't know where. I've given up looking now I gotta wait for him to get home.

In the meantime I've been testing the foam idea. Its curing right now, we'll know in an hour or two how well it will do; but it will take a full 24 hours to cure completely.

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