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Old May 15th, 2007, 07:29 AM
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Help me with VD4000BWS again...

I just fully installed my computer from old case to my new VD4000BWS but one problem. I seem to got everything working except one thing. When I turn on the system I see the tube that goes from pump & tank to water block is filled with liquid, but the water block to radiator isn't flowing. I see some liquid in it but it's not filled and flowing, so that also makes the radiator to tank not flowing.

After the level decreased below low I refilled the tank with coolant to max again. I still didn't see all tubes operational so I turned off the system, because I'm afraid I would fry the CPU. I only see pump to water block filled.

This is my first time installing a liquid cooling case or even just a normal case. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you.

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Is there liquid in the tubing after the block? Are you sure it's not moving?
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Yes I'm sure that the water block to radiator is not moving because I see air at the beginning of the tube from water block to radiator. It's filled with some liquid but not moving and has air in it.

I don't know how much heat the CPU can take but when I went into BIOS I see the temperature rising over 90 degrees and thats when I see the number turned red and I just turned off the system and trying to get help because I'm stuck. : (

I kept trying to replug the power connectors for the pump and radiator and I got no luck. My power supply doesn't have much 4 pin connectors so I had to share some of it. This case has 3 fans not counting the radiator fans (radiator has 3 big fans). I connected plugs that was attached to pump to the connectors that was plugged with the CD drives, and the plugs attached with radiator I connected it with the the plugs that were connected with the hard drives. The radiator plug had a 3 pin connector with only 1 yellow wire, I didn't know if I need to plug that in but I tried to plug it to the motherboard where it was labeled chassis fan.

Here are some pictures if their any helpful.

http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1000177cl2.jpg


http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1000179fw1.jpg
I know you can't tell anything on this picture but the tube on the right side is not completely filled when I turn the system. Theres also no liquid flowing through it.


http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1000178kg0.jpg
I'm not sure where to connect this 3 pin connector with the 1 yellow wire but I tried connecting it where the motherboard labeled chassis fan.

Sorry for making you look at my amateur wiring it's my first time and I don't know much.

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Time to rip it apart...

First thing to test is the pump. Get a jug of water or a bucket or something, put the inlet tube into the water, suck water through the pump (suck on the outlet tube) and put that into the water. Then make sure the pump is connected to your rig, and switch on.. See if it does actually pump water. It may have a broken propeller shaft or something, so it may sound like it's working, but it's actually not pumping anything...

Just don't run the pump dry!!

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Just want to thank you for trying to help me before I ask you anything.

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suck water through the pump (suck on the outlet tube) and put that into the water. Then make sure the pump is connected to your rig, and switch on.. See if it does actually pump water. It may have a broken propeller shaft or something, so it may sound like it's working, but it's actually not pumping anything...


Sorry I don't quite understand this part. Do you put the outlet tube of the pump into a bucket of water and see if the water bubbles?

If I do find out that the pump is broken what should I do?

Again thanks for the help.

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Well first off... You should never install a wc loop on a rig and try and use it. You should always leak test it out of the case. So like snod said rip it out. We will test out the pump first by setting it up like he said. Stick the inlet in the water, and then put the outlet where ever, just somewhere back near the bucket but where you can see if something is coming out. Fill up the tubing and pump with as much water as you can, and then proceed to turn the pump on. If the water flows then keep going.

Measure the tubing about the length you want, and then assemble everything in the order you want something like Pump -> Rad -> Cpu Block -> any other blocks -> reservoir or T line -> pump. Tightening everything up get it all assembled out of the case, fill it up with water and move everything around to get as much air out of the loop that you can. A lot of air in the pump will cause a pump to not be functional and can actually fry the pump as a result. If everything is good for a good 24 hours, (also put paper towels under it, and if anything leaks fix it) Once you have passed the leak test then assemble it in your case and repeat the leak testing (unless you can get in completely in without any dissasembly) Run it without the computer on for a while and then, boot her up.
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umm looking at those pictures you just flat out don't have enough liquid in your loop. What you will want to do is use something to get suction, take the inlet off your pump, or better yet the inlet to a res if you've got one. Then manually get the water moving through your loop, keep topping it off as need be until there are no large air bubbles in your loop. Then once that is done, hook it back up and run the pump, watch your water level, this will get the rest of the air out, t lines are tough but just keep it uncovered, reservoirs are a lot faster to bleed just leave the cap to it off and keep it filled up pretty full.

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Alright sorry I still need help. Thanks for all the replies I greatly appreciated it. I just found some time to try and fix my problem. I took apart some stuff and I took a picture. Maybe you guys could take my picture and edit it like draw the bucket and point what and where I should take the tubes. Thanks again guys.

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The reservoir and pump are the same big unit, right? If so, just put the "radiator to tank" tube in some water, then suck on the "pump to water block" tube. When that's pretty full, put that into the water too. Then fire up the pump... It'll still have a small bit of air in it but it should clear quite quickly.

Oh, all tubes are still connected to the reservoir/pump, if you didn't get that, and not connected to anything else...

If it moves a lot of water (you can test the pressure at the end of the "pump to water block" tube) then the pump is fine... But if it moves nothing it's faulty

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