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Questions regarding SiSoftSandra

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i did a multimedia test on two different pcs, Intel and AMD and in the report, saw something which i don't really understand.

AMD -------Integer x4 aEMMX/aSSE
Float x4 aSSE

Intel -------Integer x8 iSSE2
Float x4 iSSE2

what does the x8 and x4 means??? i know SSE stands for Streaming SIMD Extensions, but what does the i and a represent?

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From sandra site:
"The (E)MMX, 3DNow! and SSE(2) versions compute 2/4/8 Mandelbrot point iterations at once - rather than one at a time - thus taking advantage of the SIMD instructions. Even so, 2/4/8x improvement cannot be expected (due to other overheads), generally a 2.5-3x improvement has been achieved. The ALU & FPU of 6/7 generation of processors are very advanced (e.g. 2+ execution units) thus bridging the gap as well. We found it useful to see the differences between the old and new versions of CPUs within a family as well as comparing similar CPUs from different manufacturers (e.g. Intel vs. AMD)."
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Old September 28th, 2006, 03:27 AM
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mean to say that particular AMD processor onli allows 4 Mandelbrot point iterations whereas the Intel processor allows 8 Mandelbrot point iterations???

so the a stands for AMD and i stands for Intel??

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I guess a stands for AMD and I stands for Intel. If you look at what Sandra site says it seems that only 2.5-3 at the same time are achived (per core). And yes Intel has better SSE implementation.

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Integer x8 iSSE2 : 14859 it/s
Float x4 iSSE2 : 17276 it/s

amd
Integer x4 aEMMX/aSSE : 16256 it/s
Float x4 aSSE : 17706 it/s

These are the results that i got, so how do i compare these two results since both are not using the same number of iterations??

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Not quite sure, but pentium should be better. First, it uses sse2 and second it uses x8 in integer test and still scores onl ~12% lower score. In float test they scores very similar but intel still has sse2.

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thx for clearing my doubts dude...

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i have another problem understanding the cache and memory bench marking report...

Intel
Combined Index : 5511 MB/s
Speed Factor : 29.8
2kB Blocks : 34012 MB/s
4kB Blocks : 32879 MB/s
8kB Blocks : 26720 MB/s
16kB Blocks : 24133 MB/s
32kB Blocks : 23828 MB/s
64kB Blocks : 23690 MB/s
128kB Blocks : 22971 MB/s
256kB Blocks : 20142 MB/s
512kB Blocks : 12188 MB/s
1MB Blocks : 1523 MB/s
4MB Blocks : 1521 MB/s
16MB Blocks : 1501 MB/s
64MB Blocks : 1429 MB/s
256MB Blocks : 1140 MB/s

AMD
Combined Index : 3321 MB/s
Speed Factor : 22.7
2kB Blocks : 20418 MB/s
4kB Blocks : 21121 MB/s
8kB Blocks : 20584 MB/s
16kB Blocks : 16849 MB/s
32kB Blocks : 14111 MB/s
64kB Blocks : 12300 MB/s
128kB Blocks : 8162 MB/s
256kB Blocks : 5836 MB/s
512kB Blocks : 1283 MB/s
1MB Blocks : 1243 MB/s
4MB Blocks : 1235 MB/s
16MB Blocks : 1216 MB/s
64MB Blocks : 1161 MB/s
256MB Blocks : 932 MB/s

what does this chunk of data represent?? Went thr the Sandra's FAQ but still don't really understand..

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I don't know, but I will guess, it represents how big parts are data banchmark operates with. Just a guess.

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thx mphill...you have been very helpful...
but isn't it funny when we are doing comparison on something whereby we don't know how it works.....
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thx mphill...you have been very helpful...
but isn't it funny when we are doing comparison on something whereby we don't know how it works.....

Right on target. I think it would be better said that we are doing omething and at the same time we don't know what it MEANS. In case of benchmarking it means that we are supposed to know how it affects on coputer performance. For example, will better sse3 scores means that my computer will faster open word documents (I know this is trivial, it will not, but I am too lazy to think of some working example).

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thats pretty comical......
ppl are only interested in knowing the final outcome but not how to go about getting the outcome...pretty sad isn't it?

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