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Old August 9th, 2006, 09:11 AM
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Hwbot evaluation & new features

Hi all,

I asume you guys are happy with the hwbots who maintain the rankings, as you're still using them. Some feedback would help me a lot to get a finished product though, so if there is anything that annoyes you, now is the time to spill your guts!

example requests to make the bot rankings easier:
- wizard for setting up a new bot (planned)
- mail notification to moderators when bot fails (planned)
- better faq (planned)
- ranking in first post customizable
- ...


For those who haven't kept an eye on hwbot development, these are some new feats implemented the past 2 months:

Community based benchmark charts
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Community based benchmark charts have the drawback of not being done in a controlled environment on 1 testsystem by 1 user, but once you get enough results in the deviation get's really small and the data gets equally as reliable imho. As all results get charted, a 'fake' result gets spotted quickly and can be removed from the db by one of our result moderators.

But, I see 2 huge benefits these community based benchmarks will have that charts made for a review will never be able to offer:
- overclockability. If a reviewer gets his hands on a cpu/gpu and can overclock it to xxx mhz, it means very little. I can be cherry picked, or a bad sample, or... While overclockability charts based on hundreds of submissions give you a very clear insight on the overclockability of the hw piece.
- 'live' charts. As the charts aren't the result of a handmade excel/calc sheet, but based on live data in the database, the charts will always be up to date, whether you visit them today or within a year.

What's your opinion on this? Do you think community based benchmark charts have a future, or do you think they will suffer too much from vandalism (cfr. wikipedia) to be reliable?


Example 'live' benchmark chart, 3000 superpi benchmark results. lower = better.


Example 'live' overclockability chart. Each dot represent a succesfull benchmark run at x core speed and y memory speed.


Example videocard overclockability roundup chart.


detailed processor specifications and statistics:

processor specs
processor statistics

detailed processor info:

example processor info page (E6600)

detailed videocard specifications and statistics:

videocard specs
videocard statistics

detailed videocard info:

example videocard info page (x800 GTO)

world records and team hall of fame:

world records
team rankings

I need feedback! Spill your guts!

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For the rankings, I'd quite like a way to search for a name (probably usually your own) and see what rank they have... At the moment it's quite difficult to find anyone if they're out of the top 5.

Also, I think listing members of a team should also include a category of people who have submitted benchmarks in that forum, but aren't a member of hwbot. Right now the list is just of people who have signed up... (I'm talking about this list )

It's already very good though, beats ORB into the ground!
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Old August 9th, 2006, 10:47 AM
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For the rankings, I'd quite like a way to search for a name (probably usually your own) and see what rank they have... At the moment it's quite difficult to find anyone if they're out of the top 5.


Is the result search page insufficient, or didn't you knew about it?

If the member registered, you can also use the 'quick search' box on the left at hwbot.org.

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Also, I think listing members of a team should also include a category of people who have submitted benchmarks in that forum, but aren't a member of hwbot. Right now the list is just of people who have signed up... (I'm talking about this list )


True, but I don't think I will ever change this, because:
a) registering has been made real easy, it takes 20sec max
b) it would be wrong to consider the nicknames as unique. User 'gamer' may be a whole other user on forum x as on forum y.

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It's already very good though, beats ORB into the ground!


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Is the result search page insufficient, or didn't you knew about it?


I didn't know about that

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True, but I don't think I will ever change this, because:
a) registering has been made real easy, it takes 20sec max
b) it would be wrong to consider the nicknames as unique. User 'gamer' may be a whole other user on forum x as on forum y.


But for part b) the nicknames don't need to be unique, do they? As long as they posted in the forum, they could be listed...

I agree that signing up is easy, but there are a few people here already who haven't bothered to do so, from what I can see. mrps2man, jlewis_02 and ManaVampire have all posted results, but not signed up. Still, it's not a "problem" as such... I guess it's up to them.

EDIT: Oh, and a little more choice of Pentium 3's would be grand! Right now the only Celeron is "P3 Celeon 1GHz" or something... a bit limited. Not too important in todays world, though!

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I didn't know about that



But for part b) the nicknames don't need to be unique, do they? As long as they posted in the forum, they could be listed...

I agree that signing up is easy, but there are a few people here already who haven't bothered to do so, from what I can see. mrps2man, jlewis_02 and ManaVampire have all posted results, but not signed up. Still, it's not a "problem" as such... I guess it's up to them.


As I see it that if you don't bother to register (which is the case for about 70% of the hwbot users), you probably don't care about getting hwbot awards either. Not that I blame them, I don't like registering either. : )
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